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AnAkIn
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I don't think this has been posted before.
Here are the Speed of all weapons(I found them with a AMXX plugin):
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Weapon Run Speed Walk Speed
Knife : 250 130
USP : 250 130
Glock : 250 130
P228 : 250 130
Desert Eagle : 250 130
Fiveseven : 250 130
Dualies : 250 130
M3 : 230 119
XM1014 : 240 124
TMP : 250 130
Mac-10 : 250 130
MP5 : 250 130
UMP : 250 130
P90 : 245
Galil : 240 124
Famas : 240 124
AK47 : 221 114
M4A1 : 230 119
Scout : 260 135
AUG : 240 124
SG-552 : 235 122
SG-550 : 210 109
G3SG1 : 210 109
AWP : 210 109
Para : 220 114
HE : 250 130
Flash : 250 130
Smoke : 250 130
Shield Opened : 250 130
Shield Closed : 180 93
Bomb : 250 130
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NOTE: The speed in the water, is not the same, you have to divide the speed the weapon gives you, by 1.25.
Example:
With Knife, I run at 250 units on ground, but in water, i'll run at 200 units, because:
250/1.25=200
Speed CVars.
You maybe know those : cl_forwardspeed (+forward) , cl_backspeed (+back), and cl_sidespeed (+moveleft and +moveright). Default value is 400. Yes you can change them but they don't change anything, because there is a limitation with the weapon speed. But of course if you lower it you can lower your speed.
There is also cl_upspeed (+moveup and +movedown), but again it's useless, max value is 320 and sv_maxspeed is 320...
cl_anglespeedkey: It defines the turning speed ratio with +left/+right while walking (+speed). cl_yawspeed * cl_anglespeedkey = turning speed while walking. By default the turning speed while walking is 140.7(210 * 0.67 = 140.7)
Speed Exploit
I don't think this is known, but in Natural Selection it's, and it also works in CS.
First be sure cl_forwardspeed/cl_backspeed/cl_sidespeed have the same value. It should be 320 or over(because sv_maxspeed is 320 by default). Default is 400.
That's exploit is : Running against a wall holding Strafe key and Forward/Backward key, and depending of your angle of view, you gain speed(it goes over the weapon max speed). I can't really describe the correct angle of view, but that screenshot can give you a idea:
Here you can see Current Speed 274, and the Knife Speed is 250
Oh and that's also working while running and strafing i think, but it's easier against a wall and maybe you gain more speed.
Last edited by AnAkIn on Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:19 pm; edited 11 times in total
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:07 am |
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mind-friend
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gj(Disclaimer: May not be true)
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:24 am |
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SpawNyK
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GJ, great find i was always wondering if running with pistol or knife is the same ... about the nades and c4 i knew ...
But i have a Q ... when you b-hop dont you gain more speed, show us a snapshot of the best b-hop speed AnAkIn :!: :wink:
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:53 am |
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AnAkIn
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hmm actually i think you are still around 274 when you bhop, because they fixed the speed exploit, but i'll try later.
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:57 am |
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WotaN
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Very nice tut Anakin!Quem dii diligunt, adolescens moritur
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:21 pm |
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mind-friend
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I will probably use the ak less now.(Disclaimer: May not be true)
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:58 pm |
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AnAkIn
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Thanks for positive feedback
While bhopping i made:
Max Speed : 406
Max Ground Speed : 322
But i was usually just between 200 and 300...
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:36 pm |
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SpawNyK
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nice speed, i think you can achive a greater speed b-hoppin with a scout :lol:
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:42 pm |
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AnAkIn
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Yes with a scout, but here i was using knife ^^
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:42 pm |
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SpawNyK
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AnAkIn wrote:Yes with a scout, but here i was using knife ^^
yes i thought so, so when you have time try with scout and post the speed here, bcoz i wanna see what is the max speed you cand get in cs with "sv_maxspeed 320" :D
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:46 pm |
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AnAkIn
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Hmmm, about sv_maxspeed 320, you can change sv_maxspeed to 999 and cl_forwardspeed to 999, but it won't work sv_maxspeed can be changed but have no effect in CS it seem...And i said max speed is 320, but i don't really know, maybe it's 270 like in HL, or there is no max value, that's only depending of the weapon and the strafe bug.
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:50 pm |
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loloslav
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SpawNyK wrote:GJ, great find i was always wondering if running with pistol or knife is the same
I always run with pistol. because i can change to prim weapon (lastinv) or to HE (fast grenade script).
I ALWAYS KNEW, THAT ITīS BULLSHIT TO RUN WITH KNIFE... i knew it :lol:
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:48 pm |
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Peorth
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Hm, I always seem to go slower with a pistol than with a grenade, odd. Also wall strafing is a pretty old bug.You just lost the game.
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:09 pm |
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:12 pm |
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LOL it's true, pistol is just as fast as knife.
... and I had no idea about wallstrafing, that's cool... but I'd prefer to B-Hop.
One more thing, could you tell me how fast | Code: | cl_movespeedkey 0.559
alias cl_movespeedkey; |
is while walking as well as running. (I don't think it does anything to running but meh)
Good job on this tut, one thing I have to add about the speed CVars: On servers with certain plugins, particularly the "Red Race" with RollTheDice or "Speed" Item on this shopmenu for a certain mod I have seen on surf_servers, you can adjust your speed to 99999: | Code: | cl_forwardspeed 99999
cl_backspeed 99999
cl_sidespeed 99999 |
and you go crazy fast. :D
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:16 pm |
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AnAkIn
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Q-bA11 wrote:
One more thing, could you tell me how fast | Code: | cl_movespeedkey 0.559
alias cl_movespeedkey; |
is while walking as well as running. (I don't think it does anything to running but meh)
i didn't understand this...reexplain please :D
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:38 pm |
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That CVar (cl_movespeedkey) makes your walking speed (+speed) faster than that of other players. I have definitely noticed that it's faster but I am wondering how much faster compared to normal walking.
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| Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:44 pm |
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AnAkIn
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hmm cl_movespeedkey doesn't make a big difference in walking speed i think, or maybe instead of being 150 it's 150,6 but the plugin can't show that ^^
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| Posted on Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:21 am |
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Huppy
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Hi,
found this on the internet.
Its rather the same, but i wanted to show you ;)
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| Posted on Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:45 am |
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AnAkIn
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Zomg someone did the same ^^ with %
btw on some servers sv_maxspeed is 900, i think that's because of a metamod bug that change the value...i read this somewhere, but it won't change in CS. That's could explain why in half life in some servers with cl_forwardspeed 999 i walk faster!
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| Posted on Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:51 am |
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